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Wholem's avatar

Interesting. Thanks!

Matt's avatar

Oracle / softbank cds / arm equity tracker installed……

Russell Clark's avatar

Softbank is really the key.... Thats where the money is coming from....

Monty Carlo's avatar

Is Softbank gonna fall hard if this gamble turns out badly? 😉

Russell Clark's avatar

Well really depends if you think ARM and OpenAI could fall a long way....

Monty Carlo's avatar

To me it seems likely there's an overshoot of sorts.

Gigantic sums of money are bet on a quasi-perfect future in which AI is the great new revenue-mover. Indications it isn't or of lacking real productivity would come late in the process, leaving aside any other effects to the economy like worker displacement (this is a whole other topic that bears thinking about).

Pair that with potential non-viable capacity like: where's all that energy coming from, even - and it might be overshooting right now (as it did in dot-com for routers and cables infrastructure - great to have it but it was overshot).

I know it's hard to be right now against the tide of optimism and seeing blow-offs like MU / SK Hynix - but it definitely rings some overinvestment bells.

Matt's avatar

Michael Cembalist at jpm calling openAI as the weak link as well based on lack of clear monetisation route (vs google / AWS) and constraints on compute builds from power.

Russell Clark's avatar

Yes - its hard to see how OpenAI get the money they need... all their main partners are showing some degree of financial stress....